Ken Austin - 13 October 2008 08:43 PM

I’m just glad I am not your poor husband lol

That’s rather offensive Ken. I am sure that Donna’s husband is profoundly grateful for having married an intelligent, articulate and godly woman in Donna.

Joshua Aldersley - 13 October 2008 08:56 PM

Ken Austin - 13 October 2008 08:43 PM

I’m just glad I am not your poor husband lol

That’s rather offensive Ken. I am sure that Donna’s husband is profoundly grateful for having married an intelligent, articulate and godly woman in Donna.

Hi Joshua,

You seem to have left out Donna’s “sense of humour” from your list. Nice of you to step up to defend her, but we have all learnt that Donna can look after herself. Go girl !

Cheers, Kevin

I was coming from the angle that she seems to nag and pick on me a lot --- laughs

I am sure her husband is a nice guy.

Ken
Actually, he really likes me at the moment.  Picking on someone else always helps.

Thank you Joshua.  It did occur to me the other day that I am the lone female (in the threads I contribute to).  It’s good to see chivalry isn’t dead and buried.

Regards
Donna

John Clapton.....Correct understanding of the Bible is not derived from my ego or sincere choice ( as it is with so many on this forum) but in my obedience to the Divine teacher who Christ commissioned to teach me until the end of the age..the very pillar and foundation of the truth.....the Catholic Church.

I know that Pope Benedict in Rome has the Divine commission to confirm the brethren with a faith that will not fail.

I know that he holds the keys of the Kingdom of heaven , the power to bind and loose and is commissioned to feed all f Christ’s flock.

So I know what is the pure Gospel..which is the question Doctor Jensen asks in his tremendous Synod address.

Indeed Doctor Jensen condemned the ordination of women priests and then held up as heroes of the Faith, Bishop Duncan and Orombi who ordain them!

He commended Bishop Harvey as a great Anglican ( the retired Canadian bishop ministering to conservative breakaways in Canada) and yet this gentleman has a great personal devotion to our Lady of Walsingham...who is condemned in the Book of Homilies by name and the practice of invocation of saints is condemend in the articles of Religion as repugnant to the Word of God!A hundred ..no fifty years ago , an archbishop of Sydney would have condemend Harvey as a Romanizer.

Do you see now why I could not remain in conscience an Anglican..and even an evangelical to boot. However I do believe that Archbishop jensen is sincere and genuinely wants to try and save Anglicanism, but I cannot see how a man so desirous of truth cannot see these obvious contradictions.

Robert,

You do not “know” the things you assert about Pope Benedict, the keys of the Kingdom and the pure gospel.  These are things you “believe” - sincerely and genuinely.  I have no quarrel with that.  However, I assert my right to have a different view in the matter without being denigrated.  I trust that I have the grace not to stoop to denigrating you.

I understand the reasons you could no longer remain in the Anglican Church, but it does seem a bit rich to hop over to the other side of the fence and then start calling back over the fence that we are all wrong.  Where you are is right for you.  Where I am is right for me.  There is even a huge range of views in these matters within your now beloved Roman Catholic Church.  That is fine.

Yes that is true about there being a number of views about this issue in the Roman Catholic Church. Well said.
I do however bet that he is glad he has “hopped over the other side of the fence”. His search for truth has brought him home.
I hope devotion to Our Lady grows in the Anglican Church, as your church needs all the help it can get.

Thereeis the correct Catholic view, as expressed in her official magisterial /teaching documents and then there are those who choose to deviate from it. I hope, however poor my typing or communication skills , that I am faitfully representing Holy Mother Church...bearing in mind we will all account for every word we utter before Our Blessed Lord.

Brent, Robert would not have “hopped over the other side of the fence” without being glad he had done so.  I am glad I hopped over the fence from Churches of Christ into the Anglican Church.

Regarding devotion to Our Lady I have been intrigued that in the Anglican Calendar there are more feast days dedicated to Mary than there are in the Roman Church - not that all Anglicans or parishes would celebrate the feasts.

John,
I will, of course, stand corrected, but I find it difficult to believe that there are more feast days dedicated to The Blessed Virgin Mary in the Anglican liturgical calender( if such a thing exists in the Diocese of Sydney) than the Universal Roman Calender.
You will be no doubt aware that every Saturday in the Roman calender is dedicated to the BVM unless otherwise specified.
Brent Egan

It’s me that stands corrected, Brent.  I was relying on a memory and it was certainly faulty.

There are five Marian days in the Anglican Liturgical Cycle (perhaps not celebrated in the Diocese of Sydney) beginning with the Conception of the BVM on December 8th, the Annunciation to the BVM on March 25th or April 1st, The Visitation of the BVM to Elizabeth May 31st, the Assumption into Heaven of the BVM August 15th and the Birth of the BVM on September 8th.  I actually thought that was a lot of veneration of Mary for Anglicans.

There are another 10 in the Roman Liturgical cycle mostly related to honorific titles for the BVM such as Our Lady of Lourdes on February 11th.  And there are special Marian months - May and October - whihc have their own feasts and as you mention there are 52 special Saturdays in the year so far as the BVM is concerned.

Hi John,

I think that your comment regarding the Anglican Liturgical Cycle not being celebrated in the Diocese of Sydney is probably correct - in practice anyway. I had to find it in my copy of the AAPB, and it was the first time I’d ever looked at it - and I attend a church where we change the colours on time!

I’d say there’s a number of reasons for this. Evangelicals reject the concept of special holy people called saints, and we tend to be less attached to ceremonies. In addition, it seems to try and please people from across the Anglican spectrum, which means that there are some people Sydney Anglicans would be happy to commemorate (Cramner, Wilberforce & Luther come to mind) whilst there are others (Laud, Charles I, John Keble, & Julian of Norwich) who we’d regard as pretty dodgy.

What do you find objectionable about Julian of Norwich?

The feast of the Assumption is not celebrated by name in the Church of England feast days.

The Feast of the Assumptiont is listed here in OZ in the Australian Lectionary.